Mishap of B-52 at Fairchild Air Force Base Washington



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Please try to keep from using vulgarities and profanity. I feel we can make our points without using profanity. I have no problem with calling the pilot a jerk, however remember there can be children viewing this thread so try to keep suitable for public. July-7-2007
As far as I know is the first time this much of the video has been made readily available to the GP when I posted this on Youtube. ;) More footage then I have seen on the net on this subject. Mishap 24 June 1994, a B-52H of the 325th Bomb Squadron, 92d Bomb Wing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994
_Fairchild_Air_Force_Base_B-52_crash In this photograph you can see what is apparently an ejection hatch. http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/210/b52crsh2cf5.jpg This photograph was shot in mid-impact with the ground. http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/945/b52crash3rj9.jpg The photographs were sho
t in-between the time frame that there was apparently a plasma ball from the wing clipping power lines. US air show standards are the highest, but this was a case of systemic disregard for safety. Since this crash, the bar has been set higher more enforcement and awareness. It bothers me to see so
me other counties still have very poor safety at major air shows. The former soviet block has had several crashes that I would consider safety neglect a factor, if not the cause. Aerobatics should not be done over crowds. Aerobatics should be kept in a safe margin away from the crowd and to some ex
tent the flight line. I even frown on extremely low passes over crowds. Pilots and management/command should have restraint from flying planes to extreme limits at air shows. A margin / buffer zone should be between the aerobatic area and the crowd. The B-52 was just practicing; if he had crashed
in a crowd at an air show the loss of life would be high. The B-52 did some low high speed passes over personnel area and flight line; if there was a failure, he could have possibly destroyed all the aircraft on the flight line (and equipment, buildings) or and killed a lot more personnel. I love a
ircraft and air shows and the US. I hate to see a bunch more rules, I would prefer pilots and people in charge do there best to keep things safe with knowledge, reasonable action. I think the US and many other countries have learned from this accident to take air show safety more rationally. Howeve
r, a few air shows like to try to out perform other air shows with unsafe flashy showboat shows. When you push the limits you tend to exponentially increase the risks. If a pilot makes a goof or if there is a failure, with buffer zones the risk to the crowd can be minimized. --- On 24 June 1994, a
B-52H of the 325th Bomb Squadron, 92d Bomb Wing at Fairchild Air Force Base (AFB), Wash., crashed while preparing to land after practicing maneuvers for an air show, killing all four crewmen. The pilot in command had over a long period of time demonstrated a disregard for Air Force flying rules and
regulations, and this was known by the senior commanders in the wing. No appropriate action had been taken to discipline him or rein in his noncompliant behavior. More info at http://s92270093.onlinehome.us/CRM-Devel/resources/paper/darkblue/darkblue.htm http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDeta
il.aspx?PersonID=14464006 In my opinion, I would consider this pilot a superb "stick and rudder" pilot. However there is more to being a pilot and flight then "stick and rudder", in my opinion he was very poor in some aspects of safety. It's like a football player that is in excellent physical con
dition and physical ability, but ignores strategy and team effort. There is more to being a pilot than one aspect, just as there is more to being an athlete then a single aspect. Other good videos long videos of the same plane and pilot. Courtesy of jescates http://youtube.com/watch?v=UJb08ZzejAA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hWUgDLFokNw


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Barflewk: I ... ( 3 days ago by ATFSCrash)
Barflewk: I disagree. As shown by several individuals comments here, there are many people that want to put Bud Holland (and the likes of him) above criticism. There are some people that don't like to see the elite or celebrities criticized; and there are others that don't want him criticized because he had a family; in either case they want to put him up on a pedestal above criticism; thusly interfering with the truth and justice and the safety of the general public.
I understand what I ... ( 3 days ago by MikeTatuWP76)
I understand what I saw - a superb pilot would not bank his aircraft so low to the ground at that speed. You are falling into the same trap that his superiors did - yes he takes chances - but he is "a superb stick and rudder pilot" Putting superb in the same sentence as this guy is - I will put this in army/tanker/ranger jargon - "flipping" stupid
Holland was a ... ( 3 days ago by MikeTatuWP76)
Holland was a horrible pilot - your analogy fails to take that into account - he wasn't at team player yes - but he also did not fly very well - he is more like a football player with speed that doesn't run routes well - they don't last long in the nfl because they cause interceptions. His blatant disregard for safety rules should have given someone a clue that he would end up killing people - he was a lousy pilot.
MikeTatuWP76: You ... ( 3 days ago by ATFSCrash)
MikeTatuWP76: You still don't understand the aviation jargon. I'm not falling for any trap. Your pride and ignorance is blinding you to the truth.
As I said there is more to being a pilot then "stick and rudder"; such as safety.
MikeTatuWP76: If ... ( 3 days ago by ATFSCrash)
MikeTatuWP76: If you are familiar with the aviation community, you would know that sometimes a good stick and rudder pilot reference is actually criticism of a pilot's overall ineptness.
It is like being dinner guests and complementing the salt as a way of gently saying the dinner is lousy in a comical fashion. As a comedian once said. "Great salt". Good stick and rudder pilot; often is a way of criticizing a pilot's team player attitude, respect for safety, navigational skill
s, ect....
MikeTatuWP76: On ... ( 3 days ago by ATFSCrash)
MikeTatuWP76: On the contrary; you are being retarded. The reason I made that analogy is because Bud Holland lost the game of life and his team and the taxpayers had to pay the price for his arrogance and need to be in the limelight.
He's much like the quarterback that insists that he receives a play to keep the focus on him rather than to let another player make a safer play.
First you say I am ... ( 3 days ago by MikeTatuWP76)
First you say I am ignorant, then you say I am retarded - I would be offended but you are still insisting that one of the worst pilots in the world is "superb" I am neither ignorant nor retarded - and Holland was not even a fair pilot - he was horrible, and you are still defending him in a backhanded way. A "superb" stick and rudder pilot would not have banked a large aircraft going that slowly that close to the ground. He would have known that would result in his loss of lift.
Truth is that he ... ( 3 days ago by MikeTatuWP76)
Truth is that he was a horrible pilot and you still are sticking up for him - admit that he was a horrible pilot. I am not proud and I am not ignorant. I have flown before and I have spent hours on training flights (747) - I know what big aircraft can and cannot do - he was not a good stick and rudder guy - yet you will insist that he was and look down your nose at me and say I don't understand. That elitism and arrogance is what killed Holland and his crew.
The B-52 has no ... ( 3 days ago by kiowa473)
The B-52 has no ailerons, only flaps and spoilers to control degrees and rate of roll. Without aileron flight surfaces any roll past 45 degrees will result in inversion of the aircraft and lose of control. At low altitude that will result in a crash. The Pilot was probably suffering from a form of psychosis caused by subliminal reaction to movement in his peripheral vision. A reflex reaction. Neither he nor the crew would have realized it was happening to him. Not trying to excuse anyone.
MikeTatuWP76: You ... ( 3 days ago by ATFSCrash)
MikeTatuWP76: You seem to have a reading comprehension problem, probably because you're blinded by your arrogance and ignorance. You seem to be like most trolls.
As I have said before. I suspect in many ways Bud Holland was the very sane and intelligent man, however with regards to safety in this case he was a stupid sociopath.
MikeTatuWP76: You ... ( 3 days ago by ATFSCrash)
MikeTatuWP76: You seem to have an idealistic/simpleminded shallow unreal view of the world. You seem to think everything is black and white and fits into narrow bipolar stereotypes. I think things are often multifaceted and complex. I think Bud Holland was a complicated man; he obviously was very talented and intelligent to get as far as he did; however he obviously did some very stupid things for several years that led up to this mishap.
MikeTatuWP76: ... ( 3 days ago by ATFSCrash)
MikeTatuWP76: Unlike you I am being realistic and fair. You are constantly lying by taking words out of context, to claim I mean something I didn't. You are a slanderer. Bud Holland was a good pilot and good soldier in many respects, however with the respect of following orders he was a bad soldier, in regard to safety he was a bad pilot. Your prejudice/bigotry is leading you to stereotype. Learn not to hate. Learn to be smart. Learn to be ethical.
MikeTatuWP76: I ... ( 3 days ago by ATFSCrash)
MikeTatuWP76: I think like many of the Hollyweird types Bud Holland became blinded by the limelight. In most respects Bud Holland was an intelligent and gifted man, however he became drunk with power. His ego killed him and his crewmen and destroyed a multimillion dollar aircraft.
Kiowa473: I ... ( 3 days ago by ATFSCrash)
Kiowa473: I disagree in that there is no indication that this mishap was a result of any form of spatial disorientation. The findings and evidence show that reckless operation beyond design parameters led to a stall resulting in this crash.
Kiowa473: I think ... ( 3 days ago by ATFSCrash)
Kiowa473: I think calling "spatial disorientation" "psychosis" is a little strong language and somewhat misleading; though in some respects correct.
I think you might be confusing the Guam B-52 crash that happened on Monday, July 22 2008. That sounds like it may be have been a form of "spatial disorientation" or and "channelized attention" that probably lead to "controlled flight into terrain/sea" .
As a professional ... ( 3 days ago by Frankythesecond)
As a professional pilot for a US airline,I must disagree.Great stick and rudder skills are not a requirement of a good pilot.We have all had bad landings,approaches and maneuvers.Knowing when enough is enough is paramount.Many of the best sticks Ive flown with are the scariest, while the average stick is often the safest.Generally pilots are a cocky group.Repeated bad judgement killed that crew,no disorientation,no lack of ability.
There are old ... ( 2 days ago by 1965CAPTKIRK)
There are old pilots and there are bold pilots; there are no old, bold, pilots. I feel sorry for the crew and there family's, Pilot error his fault end of story.
if he survived, i ... ( 2 days ago by chriscos123)
if he survived, i would kill him, he doesn't deserve to live,
it's very easy to ... ( 2 days ago by agav8r802)
it's very easy to be judgemental, when you have never had your hands on the controls of an aircraft when something goes wrong. This mans job was to operate the aircraft outside of it's known safe flight operations envelope. There is only one person that knows what actually happened & what actuallt went wrong. My heart goes out to his family & friends. I survived a straight in punch, in an AT-602 with LOCKED controls. I'm glad that the only video of the crash, is inside my head. Ron Y. NE ARK
Agav8r802: I ... ( 1 day ago by ATFSCrash)
Agav8r802: I disagree. The man's job was to fly the aircraft within design parameters: many time he violated those parameters. He was warned and ordered not to violate those parameters again, his last flight he violated orders again, it was the last time he violated orders. His job was to fly as aircraft within safety guidelines and regulations and to use common sense; he failed to do any of those. So you claim to be a pilot that advocates breaking FAA, military and other safety regulations?
Agav8r802: I landed ... ( 1 day ago by ATFSCrash)
Agav8r802: I landed an aircraft safely after the ailerons locked up; fortunately for me they locked up in a neutral position and aircraft I was flying was somewhat stable, and fortunately I was not doing aerobatics when the failure occurred. I received quite a bit of admiration from fellow pilots that I was able to land aircraft safely without ailerons.
Agav8r802: My ... ( 1 day ago by ATFSCrash)
Agav8r802: My father was a student when his Army air Corps AT-6 lost power; he asked his instructor if he wanted to take it. The instructor told my father to go ahead and land it, that it would be good training, my father did a successful gear up landing in a freshly plowed cornfield. Of course the plane was pretty beat up, but they were able to diagnose the problems and rectify the maintenance issues and aircraft was in good enough condition that it was salvageable.
thats a shame... ... ( 1 day ago by shamanmant)
thats a shame...what an amazing pilot, wish he pulled out of that..:(
the problem is guys ... ( 6 hours ago by mhy249)
the problem is guys though is what made him do this crazy stunt,i dont think anyone will know,only suffuring families..R.I.P



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