Arnold Schoenberg's Twelve-Tone Method (English)

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Arnold Schoenberg's Twelve-Tone Method (English)

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Introduction to the twelve-tone method of Arnold Schoenberg (1874-1951), Austrian composer.

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have not you heard ... ( 5 months ago by clairescott87)

have not you heard of Camus' philosophy of absurd? maybe you should learn more about the context in which Sch
önberg developed his method instead of detracting him from doing good music like that

Good question? ... ( 4 months ago by iwanttowatchsomethin)

Good question? It's likely not the absence of the tonal center that bothers some listeners after all, but the alien quality that notes have when they are not in the context of some kind of mode. Rather than atonal, 12-tone music should be called non-modal tonality, perhaps.

I personally have ... ( 4 months ago by TheBlackPage1)

I personally have exposed myself to so much atonal and serial music that it really just sounds normal to my ears. It's interesting to think what a child who has been brought up listening to Schoenberg, Webern etc. would make of all the 'normal' tonal music... I don't think its right to say 'music with a tonal center is better'? I think its all just a matter of perspective.

Well, my 6 year old ... ( 4 months ago by iwanttowatchsomethin)

Well, my 6 year old enjoys all kinds of music. He has his preferences though, and they seem to have little to do with tonality.

But did you enjoy ... ( 4 months ago by iwanttowatchsomethin)

But did you enjoy it, even before you got "used to it"? I'm sure 12-tone can sound "normal" when it becomes daily fare. I initially listened because I was curious to listen to something new. Then, the music began to sound old, as it does to some. Now, I can listen again with fresh ears. I'm curious about contemporary composers working in the idiom and how they compare with the Vienna Three.

I sort of enjoyed ... ( 4 months ago by TheBlackPage1)

I sort of enjoyed it. I didn't understand it like I do now. But I'm uneducated musically so If I'm listening to John Cage or the Beach Boys, it doesn't matter. I just listen to stuff that sounds good to me. I get so confused about music, there's just so much of it. Does some music need to be against other music? I find myself hating certain types if what im listening to at the time is different from it, or follows a different aesthetic. Sorry if I'm making no sense but its rather late!

Does some music ... ( 4 months ago by iwanttowatchsomethin)

Does some music need to be against other music? I like to think music itself is not working against other music, but I am sure some compositions are forms of critical responses to other music. In this sense it is preferable to other forms of criticism, since they are not merely judgments, but are creative products in their own right. They are also vulnerable to further criticism, whereas I think of critics as trying to stand above the objects they criticize.

it seems you must ... ( 4 months ago by lucasiskewl)

it seems you must to really have expended all of the music out there before you can get into 12-tonal music. i mean, you must get bored of modes and now you want something COMPLETELY different. i mean kids go from blues to rock and roll to jazz to jazz fusion and then when there are no more cool licks that they can learn, they must turn to this, because it is so different. i just found out about this today, so i am obviously not a fan. yet. maybe a few years from now? maybe tomorrow? who knows..

Please, no one bite ... ( 3 months ago by tasmanianbanannahop)

Please, no one bite my head off, I'm just trying to learn, but is this twelve-tone dodecaphonism similar to that of a haiku in poetry? like a fixed structure to compose music to? please and thank you to anyone who answers my question! :)

Debussy is always ... ( 3 months ago by woz21zeck)

Debussy is always tonal, or at least his music always has a tonal center, even in the second book of preludes.

what a genius your ... ( 3 months ago by ArturoAlejandroS)

what a genius your son!atonality music at 6 years!

Well, I didn't say ... ( 3 months ago by iwanttowatchsomethin)

Well, I didn't say he was particularly interested in 12-tone music, though he loves Stravinsky.

Good post. ( 2 months ago by sagemonsterx)

Good post.

Quite the contrary. ... ( 2 months ago by bandgeek5804)

Quite the contrary. Twelve tone music came about as Schoenberg began to codify his musical language after breaking with tonality. People often contrast his 12-tone music with his 'freely atonal' works but that is largely a myth. He experimented with various techniques of organization for about a decade before discovering dodecaphony. It's just a method of organizing pitch, nothing more. Very little of it is predetermined. If you are interested, I would recommend reading Style and Idea.

Thank you very much ... ( 2 months ago by tasmanianbanannahop)

Thank you very much for this :) still a little confusing, but I will definitely check out Style and Idea. Have a lovely day!

Merely being ... ( 2 months ago by sonata1992)

Merely being different is not all that matters. I find this music haunting, and for me really does reach 'beyond' tonality... I'm not bored with tonality either. Just listened to Mozart's 39th symphony. I loved that, I love this.

in the inversion ... ( 2 months ago by mraillard)

in the inversion the first pitch and the last two do not match the original row. it should be: b f ees ges e c g aes d des bes aes

correction: b f ees ... ( 2 months ago by mraillard)

correction: b f ees ges e c g aes d des bes a

here's your cookie. ( 2 months ago by stu66er)

here's your cookie.

what a genious! ... ( 2 months ago by stu66er)

what a genious! Sch
önberg kicks ass.

well i dont know ... ( 2 months ago by stu66er)

well i dont know much about Haiku poetry. But in twelve tone music the idea is that you create one theme which is your main structure, and then vary over that theme until it's completed. That's theory of the music. if you listen to a survivor from warsaw you'll see that the structure helps bring a meaning to the chaos and really intensifies the piece. all music has a certain structure, i wouldn't say that twelve tone music's structure plays a bigger role than in other music, it's just different

What's the piece ... ( 1 month ago by aldebussy)

What's the piece being played at 2:07?

I'm pretty sure ... ( 1 week ago by TheBlackPage1)

I'm pretty sure that's from the variations for orchestra, op 31

sonata1922 -- I ... ( 6 days ago by p0lyph0ny)

sonata1922 -- I agree 100%. Schoenberg himself said that there's "still plenty of good music to be written in C major" -- just not by him :).

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