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I would like to, I ... ( 6 months ago by dinnerbucket9)
I would like to, I will, add Denis Johnson to the mix even though his raw production is no where near Roth and Co. Still, he is a rough and talented beast, part Mailer, part Robert Stone at his best.
when he says the ... ( 6 months ago by rrh8)
when he says the days of the novel have come and gone i cant help but feel a little sadness and a slight amount of annoyance. being an 18 years old and really only beginning my journey into literary tradition and seeing some of these fantastic authors, such as roth, for what they truely are, its bad to think that in 20 years or so people will have stopped appreciating the novel. i really hope this isnt the case people prove roth wrong.
im interested, and ... ( 5 months ago by rrh8)
im interested, and this sound a little daft, but what does a PhD thesis entail? do you choose an area of literature to look at and develop a question based around that area?
Yes, that's the ... ( 5 months ago by wanchope6700)
Yes, that's the approach I've adopted,rrh8. I've also found that the area of research you choose tends to narrow and become more focussed as the thesis develops. I'm looking at the impact Zuckerman's filial neuroses has on the American trilogy narratives.
6700. Great to find ... ( 5 months ago by dinnerbucket9)
6700. Great to find a fellow Roth enthusiast out 'here'. I paid no attention for years, being a snot-nosed fan of the post-modernist types. I have binged on Roth recently and just begun the GHOSTWRITER/ZUCKERMAN UNBOUND/ANATOMY LESSON/PRAGUE ORGY quartet. GHOSTWRITER seems absolutely pivotal re all later work.
RRH8.Roths late ... ( 5 months ago by dinnerbucket9)
RRH8.Roths late career, which is astonishing re volume and quality [ his best work forged in his 60's], provides me with some measure of hope re the future of the novel [ pronounced dead a thousand times since Beckett]. That you have found him at 18 increases said hope.
RRH8. And please do ... ( 5 months ago by dinnerbucket9)
RRH8. And please do not think I blame Beckett for some of the alarmist noise that followed. His trilogy [ Molloy, Malone Dies, The Unameable], at least the first two thirds of it, changed my life as a writer.
That elusive Nobel ... ( 5 months ago by jazzmanEE)
That elusive Nobel Prize can't be far away indeed. Of all of today's writers Roth should be the first to receive it.
...the first who ... ( 5 months ago by jazzmanEE)
...the first who deserves it rather :)
Absolutely. And the ... ( 5 months ago by dinnerbucket9)
Absolutely. And the good people at the local bookstore still have a dozen I havent read and it pleases me that I actually send money into his pocket and that he seems finally to be steadily gaining the recognition he deserves. That said, I doubt that young writers are paying as much attention as they should as American academia is still punch-drunk in love with dime store post-modernists. Oh, well.
Here here ( 4 months ago by dropkickmurphy9)
Here here
dinner: What do you ... ( 4 months ago by NGS712)
dinner: What do you mean by 'dime store post-modernists'?
NGS712. I suppose I ... ( 4 months ago by molloyx)
NGS712. I suppose I used the term loosely to describe a certain brand of trailer park neo-realism [ the Ivy league graduate who inhabits the tiny soul of the Paula Jones Family] and the lazy minded goo produced by David Foster Wallace and his..brethren. I did not really mean Calvino or Barth but I do mean those who 1] cannot begin to tell a story 2] substitute irony for oxygen.
And more than that ... ( 4 months ago by molloyx)
And more than that I mean it in stark contrast to Roths stubborn, heroic project...his insistence that it matters to live in the world and, futhermore, that the strangeness of this real experinece is worthy of close inspection and a dedicated response. A far cry from the glib,nihilistic proscriptions of the amatuer post mods.
molloy: I see. I ... ( 4 months ago by NGS712)
molloy: I see. I haven't been a hard-core reader, but within the last year I've become interested in Post-Mod. literature and the concepts/ideas/and so on it uses.
I've read Vonnegut, am reading Pynchon, and I'd really like to read Roth soon.
NG. Pynchon and ... ( 4 months ago by molloyx)
NG. Pynchon and Vonnegut mattered long before the imported [ French] virus of Post Mod Lit Crit began to suck the air out of creativity on American campuses. The same is true for Barth and Barthelme and Hawkes, Ashbery and Koch. I will stake my life on their importance and singularity. The post mod purists explain these people away as functions of the dominant culture. Beware.
Not to beat you ... ( 4 months ago by molloyx)
Not to beat you over the head, but Roths 'The Human Stain' takes these post mod creeps on directly and manages to be a great recent American novel entirely because of its guts and beauty.
molloy: You're not ... ( 4 months ago by NGS712)
molloy: You're not 'beating' me over the head. Actually I like to talk about literature, since not alot of people I know are big readers.
What is the difference between the 'purists' and the 'trash'? I want to know 'cause I'm interested in writing and do not want to end up as such. ;)
NG. There is alive ... ( 4 months ago by molloyx)
NG. There is alive in American academia a distinctly Stalinist strain [ ha ha, the Human Strain]of imported logic that enjoys the fantasy of reducing all creative output to the corporate urge of the boo-jwah-zee. It is patent nonsense, a grim theory promoted by failed artists with the souls of bitter lab technicians. Roth is the ideal anti-dote, read him and you feel the post - mod toxins leaving your blood.
Also, for the sheer ... ( 4 months ago by molloyx)
Also, for the sheer joy of heroic, hallucinogenic prose and narrative drive I recommend Robert Stone's 'Dog Soldiers' and Denis Johnsons 'Already Dead', distinctly masculine enterprises that are likely to singe the delicate sensibilities of your mild professors.
molloy: Yes but ... ( 4 months ago by NGS712)
molloy: Yes but you're not really explaining what makes these 'toxins' different from an author like Roth.
NGS. Check out ... ( 4 months ago by molloyx)
NGS. Check out SIGNS OF THE TIMES [ Deconstruction and the Fall of Paul de Man]by David Lehman. It is strong garlic re the depraved vampires haunting the corridors of American colleges and universities. Lehman does a bang up job of exposing all the major trends of post-mod, imported lit-crit theory. And....be brave, as you will take a regular beating for having the gall to posit that the author is Undead.
molloy: Are you ... ( 4 months ago by NGS712)
molloy: Are you referring to the 'Author is dead' notion?
I read about that online.
"Theres a lot of ... ( 3 months ago by geniuschristie)
"Theres a lot of brilliance locked up in all those books in the library" thanks for posting this



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